I happen to of had a mopar m1 single plain 3.9 intake for the magnum motor.
I was going to tap it for injector bosses but after talking with a few
people even with a huge 2bbl adapter teh plenum volume would be way to small
for most applications. A buddy of mine has it in his garage currently
collecting dust.
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84516.jpg
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84513.jpg
http://www.dodgetruckworld.com/gallery/haulndak/84509.jpg
it started life as a 2bbl manifold, it kinda had a 2bbl flange inside of a
4bbl flange. The guy I got it from had cut it out to use a 4bbl carb on his
95 dak. He never got around to using it and the manifold has never been on
a motor
Greg Conner
1996 RC
3.9 hybrid
>From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>Reply-To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 19:24:35 -0700
>
>
>Ron, the reality is you're on the fringe with a hotrod Mopar V6 and even
>further out with a blower. Not many options currently available, I'm
>afraid.
>
>However........... :-)
>
>Got some things cooking for the V8 that theoretically could be adapted to
>the V6 if you were willing to tackle some machine work.
>
>Any chance you could track down a single plane aluminum intake for that
>thing? Got any pics of what they look like? I thought MP offered one, but
>it
>looks like it's been discontinued.
>
>Bob
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
>[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of scsilverdak
>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 2:16 PM
>To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
>Subject: Re: DML: injectors
>
>
>
>I may (or may not) put my foot in my mouth
>with the following comment........
>
>I have seen the tables for fuel and spark on the stand-alone management
>systems and Yes they are very intimidating to say the least!
>
>I can only imagine what the tables look like on the DC, GM, and Ford stock
>PCM's.........
>
>So a experienced tuner with the software needed to properly tune a
>customer's car or truck would be money well spent......$500.00
>would be a bargain..........
>
>I do have a legit question.......
>
>BUT what do you do when you have an application (Magnum v6) and no one
>currently has a flash?.........and yes, I do know there are somethings
>currently being developed.
>
>Are your only options the dreaded "magic box"
>devices such as Superchips Race ICON or the Apexi A/F controllers, and
>billet FMU's to control the fuel curve?..........
>
>I've had to resort to these help tune my combination and I will need to
>retune soon.
>
>So I'm looking at my options.......
>
>Ron-
>'01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
>Street ,Strip, and Show
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
>To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
>Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 4:14 PM
>Subject: RE: DML: injectors
>
>
> >
> > Yes, you can buy a software tuner like Tweecer for the Fords. But people
> > still are more willing to spend the $500 one time to have an experienced
> > tuner do the tune for them. If you're not familiar with fuel and spark
> > tables(ignoring the dozens of periphery variables), the first time you
>open
> > one up will help you to understand how intimidating they can be. The
> > learning curve is not trivial.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Chad Evans
> > Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:57 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> >
> > actually you can get a stand alone system for 800 bucks
> > for mustangs/capri 5.0's
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Work well in what?
> > >
> > > Find me one nationally recognized and respected tuner who likes FMUs
>or
> > > "rising rate regulators" as you like to call them. You take your 5L
> > > Mustang
> > > to be tweaked by one of the better tuners(much deeper forced induction
> > > knowledge base) and they'll tell you to lose it before they even touch
> > > your
> > > stuff.
> > >
> > > Reason they suck is they are inconsistent and the computer is
>constantly
> > > having to hit a moving target with respect to fuel pressure. Used only
>by
> > > those without any better tools.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of Bernd D.
> > > Ratsch
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And contrary to "other opinions"...they do work very well.
> > >
> > > - Bernd
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> > > scsilverdak
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ok, so how about a Boost Proportional Regulator for better fuel
> > > control.......hehehehe!
> > >
> > > http://www.bellengineering.net/fmu2020.htm
> > >
> > > This is what's going to replace the FMU I'm currently running, it's
>much
> > > better design and easily adjusts to achieve the fuel curve I need.
> > >
> > > Ron-
> > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 4:14 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Personally I wouldn't put "better" and "rising rate regulator" in
>the
> > > > same sentence, but that's just me ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > scsilverdak
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:24 PM
> > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I still need to install a Rising Rate regulator, for better fuel
> > > > control.
> > > >
> > > > I also need to have the PCM flashed for better fuel mapping and to
>fix
> > >
> > > > the timing issues once and for all....
> > > >
> > > > Ron-
> > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Bob Mankin" <bob@coralfarms.com>
> > > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: DML: injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron, the '01 and later stuff idles in closed loop. Another little
> > > > > known twist. That's why it handles the bigger injectors better
>than
> > > > > the older controllers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net]On Behalf Of
> > > > > scsilverdak
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:16 AM
> > > > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: DML: injectors
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running the Lincoln Navigator injectors (24lb/hr) in my
> > > v6...........
> > > > >
> > > > > No problems at all except it goes full rich at 3800 under boost,
>but
> > >
> > > > > it idles just fine and doesn't run rich at all at idle.....
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron-
> > > > > '01 Dakota Sport RC, 4X4, 3.9
> > > > > Street ,Strip, and Show
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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