Leave it to me to spark a debate. It is good to hear different experiences,
though. Anyhow, thank you to all that responded. My personal preference is
the Comp Cams just because all of their parts and technical help have all been
far better than I would expect, but then again it's all been for a 350 Chevy
small block-this is my first Chrysler and I do love it so.
Thanks again.
Court
In article <000001c3fda2$ddbdd240$7900a8c0@highland>, barnesrv@comcast.net
("Rick Barnes") writes:
>
>
> That might be a bit harsh, but the idea of the list is to share personal
> knowledge and experience. If Bill had this experience I believe him and if
> Bernd says he never had a bad Cloyes, I believe him too. I do not think
> there is any way Bernd was calling Bill a liar, just comparing personal
> experiences.
> That said,
> Bill, have you ever seen one of these fail personally or just something you
> heard? Just trying to clarify...
>
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of JAMEPC@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:33 PM
> To: aol@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Timing Chain Question
>
>
>
>
>
>
> OK..from an outsider looking in (I don't know Bernd or Bill) it seems as
> though you (Bernd) think that Bill is lying. Do you? Bill, are you making
> these
> stories up? If so, please stop so the list doesn't get confused. Bernd, do
>
> you think that it may be possible that Bill did have first hand experience
> with
> bad chains even though you never ever did?
> Bernd...you're funny :)
> James
>
> In a message dated 2/27/2004 8:06:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, fasstdak@hot
> mail.com writes:
>
> > Still never had a problem with them. (Even when Wayne at APS was building
> > engine...back in the late 80's and early 90's with Cloyes and other
> > brand-name chains...never had a problem with them.)
> >
> > - Bernd
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> B1LLYW@aol.com
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:21 AM
> > To: aol@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: Timing Chain Question
> >
> >
> >
> > First-hand visual experience, Bernd. Not KRC experience for anyone who is
>
> > wondering by the way. We'll never touch a Cloyes chain in our shop. This
> > has
> > been with friends in the last couple of years. All small block Chevvies.
> >
> > One motor we were doing routine maintenance on. Took a look at the chain
> > and
> > the links were actually starting to come apart. Another motor - boom.
> Took
> >
> > a look at it and the chain was in pieces. Third motor, different engine
> > builder, boom. Chain was coming apart. All Cloyes chains. All built by
> > reputable, professional engine builders.
> >
> > Bill White - KRC Performance
> >
> > http://www.bionicdodge.com
> >
> > '95 Dakota CC 4x2 - 408 is done, truck isn't
> > '03 Ram 1500 QC 4x4 Hemi Off-Road
> >
> > In a message dated 2/27/2004 7:16:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> fasstdak@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >Huh? I've used Cloyes over the years on not only Mopar engines...but
> >many others. Never had a problem with them (mine has well over 30K on
> >it). CompCams, Edelbrock, and Mopar also work well.
> >
> >The factory tensioner is a good idea as even the brand new blocks have
> >"slop" in them causing any new chain to be slightly looser than
> >normal.
> >
> >- Bernd
> >
>
> Cloyes. BAD. I've seen several disintegrate for no apparent reason.
> Rollmaster is great if you can find it. My next choice is the Comp Cams
> 3103. The
> tensioner will work either.
>
> Bill White - KRC Performance
>
> http://www.bionicdodge.com
>
> '95 Dakota CC 4x2 - 408 is done, truck isn't
> '03 Ram 1500 QC 4x4 Hemi Off-Road
>
>
> > Cloyes and Comp Cams are the two that I am particularly interested in,
> > and Cloyes has been mentioned in many of the archives, but I'm
> > just curious if the Comp Cams (#'s 2103 or 3103) would work with the
> > tensioner
> > or not (also if they would even work with this engine) and same thing with
>
> > the
> > Cloyes?
> >
> > Any information on this would be extremely appreciated.
>
>
>
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