Bernd,
Well as recently as about 6 months ago my son brought home a couple of mopar
filters, don't recall the part number but they were both the same and were the
size of a FRAM PH16 filter, they were obviously from different manufacturers.
One had the small round holes just like a FRAM and the base matched the
pictures you see of a FRAM. The other had oblong holes and the base had a very
different appearance. Both had the same part number, don't know if one was old
stock or not but it certainly didn't look like it had been sitting around for
years. Sounds like they have decided to go with something other than FRAM or
maybe they have always had more than one manufacturer providing filters.
Son is working for a Jeep dealer now and they are stingy with the filters so he
hasn't brought any home recently, he does bring home the the left over qt from
a gallon jug of ATF+4 when he does tranny service though. :)
I have for more than 20 years tried to substitute a larger filter than the
catalog one when ever I can. On the Dakota there is not enough room between the
block and frame for a FL1A size filter (the large one that used to be used on
mopar big blocks) so I use the one that used to be called out on small blocks
(FL300) that didn't have the 90 degree adapter which is about an inch longer
than what is spec'd. My turbo PT already calls for a bigger filter than the non
turbo's there is enough room lenght wise for the FL1A but diameter wise I am
limited to the FL400 size filter specified.
Dave Clement
99 SLT+ CC 4x4
In article <BAY101-DAV1700298C3E33A08F0A7832D2A40@phx.gbl>,
fasstdak@hotmail.com ("Bernd D. Ratsch") writes:
>
> I can tell you that they are NOT Fram filters. The element, spring,
> drain-back valve (also much more heavy duty that Mobil-1 or K&N), and method
> to put it all together doesn't even come close to the Fram filters - any of
> them. We've cut quite a few filters apart to show customers the difference
> and the Fram, Purolator, STP, and Pennzoil filters are not even close to the
> Mopar.
>
> - Bernd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of
> david.clement@verizon.net
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 11:06 AM
> To: dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net
> Subject: RE: DML: RE: knocking after oil change
>
>
> FWIW, mopar filters are quite often the same FRAM filter that are also
> branded as Penzoil or Quaker State. When my son worked for the local Dodge
> dealer he used to bring home filters for me. Many were obviously FRAM's
> others had an oblong hole that I could not ID the manufacturer of. If you
> are looking for a consistently manufacturered filter I would stay away from
> the mopar brand.
>
> Currently I am using Motorcraft filters (they have been rebranded Purolator
> for the last couple of years). FL300 on the Dakota (no room for the FL1A),
> FL1A on the Barracuda and FL400 on the PT. Less than $3 at Wal-Mart.
>
> Dave Clement
>
> In article <BAY101-DAV10D3D1730E073B1C4958AAD2A30@phx.gbl>,
> fasstdak@hotmail.com ("Bernd D. Ratsch") writes:
> >
> > Honestly, try to stay away from the Pennzoil (and other lower grade)
> > filters. The anti-drainback valve is either sub-standard or they have
> > holes drilled in the base to allow for "quicker oil flow" (unfiltered at
> that).
> > The Mopar filter is seriously one of the best out there. We see too
> > many "knocking on cold start" problems. We install the Mopar filter
> > and it goes away (even happened to me - used to run Mobil-1 and
> > they're an excellent filter as well).
> >
> > The other item could also be grundge in the oil pickup.
> >
> > - Bernd
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric
> > Huff
> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 10:09 PM
> > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > Subject: Re: DML: RE: knocking after oil change
> >
> >
> > > What oil filter are you using?
> >
> > This one is Penzoil PZ-34. I have used the same kind before, but not
> > in the last few changes.
> >
> > In case i wasn't clear enough, it doesn't do it at each start, it just
> > did it when i first started it up after i filled it up with new oil.
> >
> > I did fill the filter with oil once before installing it. ("once"
> > meaning i poured oil in until it came to the top, but didn't keep
> > filling as the oil soaked into the filter.)
> >
> > Pretty much my normal procedure. It might be that i usu get more oil
> > in the filter, but not drastically more.
> >
> > The last oil change was done at the dealer, so it's possible that the
> > sound creeped up in 2 steps.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > eric
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> > > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Eric
> > > Huff Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 8:28 PM
> > > To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> > > Subject: DML: knocking after oil change
> > >
> > >
> > > After changing the oil on the dakota, i started it.
> > >
> > > I am used to a little "clacking" that i assume is lifters waiting to
> > > get oil, but this time i heard "knocking" sounds that seemed louder
> > > than i remember (and deeper than the clacking).
> > >
> > > Any idea what this is a sign of?
> > >
> > > I used valvoline 10W30 like usual (though whenever i happen to get
> > > the oil changed with warranty work, they use penzoil, i think).
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