Re: '99 Dak top speed?

From: david.clement@verizon.net
Date: Fri Oct 21 2005 - 08:21:17 EDT


Just keep in mind that the 230 horse of the 318 was a gross measurement the
next year when they went to net measurements like how your Neon is measured the
318 was 145 horsepower so they were pretty comparable. The neon is a relatively
aerodynamic car and the Fury was a barn door.

FWIW, the 360 magnum engine is the most powerful LA based small block mopar has
built even more powerful than the 340 sixpak cars of the muscel car era.

Dave Clement
99 SLT+ CC 4x4

In article <00cc01c5d5e2$280ea220$bb90c944@aoldsl.net>, awyse@sw.rr.com ("Aaron
Wyse") writes:
>
>
> I never opened up the Fury's rear end to verify the gear get.. The only
> thing I could ever make out on the OEM tag on the cover was 5.13.. Which I
> didn't realize would have been worth keeping until the car was long since
> gone; as for tires.. I rarely ran anything under roughly 29-31" on it..
> But factor in a similar Fury with a 360 going beyond the end of the speedo,
> running 255/ 70 15's on it; On I-57 in Illinois.. Kankakee to Champaign was
> 35 min on a regular basis.. GPS.. how about a clock and an atlas.
>
> For the 2.5L.. that's still falling about right then. It was supposed to be
> around 130-135HP; so calling the 318 230hp would be almost doubled.
>
> How about the estimated speed of my '69 Roadrunner with 3.23's; and roughly
> 450-475hp.. It was usually burying the 120 speedo just after it'd shift
> into 3rd... talk abou a blurry 2 lane road...
>
> Aaron Wyse
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david.clement@verizon.net>
> To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 7:08 AM
> Subject: Re: DML: '99 Dak top speed?
>
>
> >
> > Aaron,
> >
> > You have to remember the speedo's up near the top of the scale have huge
> errors
> > and they are optomistic so you were not going any where near the indicated
> > speeds. Plus, just to go from 115 to 130 with your 2.5 would require
> almost
> > doubling the horsepower.
> >
> > I am assuming it's a typo when you said 5.13's in the Fury. Assuming a
> 26-to
> > 28" tall tire that is going to put the rpm in the 7500 to 8100 rpm range.
> No
> > 318 2bl will spin those kinds of rpm.
> >
> > Dave Clement
> > 99 SLT+ CC 4x4
> >
> >
> > In article <00a001c5d52d$68b71240$bb90c944@aoldsl.net>, awyse@sw.rr.com
> ("Aaron
> > Wyse") writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't see where 130mph out of a '99 with a stock V8 is unrealistic.
> My 95
> > > with a Stock 2.5L could get a little over 115mph.. but that was giving
> her
> > > all she had. My '72 Fury with a 2bbl 318 and 5.13's could hit 118mph..
> I
> > > guess that would be even worse than early Dakota aerodynamics, and fully
> > > loaded as well.
> > > Aaron Wyse
> > > .
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joseph A. Orsini" <Joeman@gbonline.com>
> > > To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 1:55 PM
> > > Subject: RE: DML: '99 Dak top speed?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave,
> > > >
> > > > Yeah that is what I have resigned myself to, the only way to know is
> to
> > > run
> > > > it at a high speed run. Then you know for sure. There are just too
> many
> > > > variables to try and figure out what they will do. Heck maybe by the
> time
> > > I
> > > > do it I will have swapped in a 360 and it wouldn't be a fair test
> anyway.
> > > > And it is estimated Cup cars would be pushing 225 230 without
> restrictor
> > > > plates with the modern aero packages they have. In reality I think
> the
> > > Dak
> > > > should be good for something 130-140 without engine mods. Hopefully
> time
> > > > will tell and I can find out for sure. Thanks all for the input on
> this
> > > and
> > > > don't worry all testing will be done in a controlled environment and
> not
> > > on
> > > > the street where someone other than myself would be in danger.
> > > >
> > > > -Joe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Every vehicle I have owned the speedo is reading at least a
> > > > > couple of mph
> > > > > optomistic at 60 mph (I believe this is on purpose too)which is a
> > > > > 3.33% error
> > > > > assuming that that error holds true to 115 indicated you are
> actually
> > > only
> > > > > going 111 mph. My experince having been an engineer for a company
> > > > > that makes
> > > > > instrumentation I would not be suprised if the error up near the
> > > > > top of the
> > > > > scale is even larger (typically dial type gauges are designed to
> > > > > a spec between
> > > > > 20% and 70% of full scale). Magazines use radar or a 5th wheel to
> > > > > record speeds
> > > > > to elminate this error.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Clement
> > > >
> > >
>



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