RE: warm up time

From: James Calder (jCalder3@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Fri Dec 30 2005 - 10:00:52 EST


 

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From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Michael
Maskalans
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 9:22 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: Re: DML: warm up time

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Josh Battles wrote:

>
> On Thu, December 29, 2005 9:41 pm, Zito, James A \(GE Infra, Energy\)
wrote:
> >
> > Ok quick question now that it is getting coldish......
> >
> > It seems to take an extremely long time to warm up, AKA give heat.
> > On a day in the 20'F's it takes more than 10 minutes to get warm, by
> > then my fingers barely work and I won't go into the condition my
> > toes are in......maybe I should change out of the Teva's eh??
> >
> > Factory stat in a 3.9 V6 with manual tranny.
>
> It usually takes my truck (3.9L Automatic) about that long when temps
> are below freezing. I'd say that you're not outside of normal.

my 318 may or may not be a valid comparison but it also takes 8-10 minutes
to give me heat in the morning. I actually get about 5 miles further down
the road in the Dakota before I get heat than I do with the 7.3L non-turbo
International diesel in my Ford.

>
> I guess you could hold your shifts longer but that's not always the
> greatest idea. I've heard some paranoia about how the heads can crack
> between the valves if you hold shifts in the cold so YMMV.

as long as we're talking about "what we've heard" I've read in at least two
places that almost all of our heads are likely cracked between the valve
seats. One article was on magnafluxing and the other on repairing cracked
castings by various methods. That one had some interesting stuff but I
don't remember any of the terminology so it might be difficult to find. It
was posted to DiRT a couple weeks to a month ago.

  +-- Mike Maskalans ------------- Rochester, NY ----------+
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My original Dakota was a '93 3.9. I rebuilt the engine and one head was
cracked between the valve seats. The machineist sais it was very commom in
the 3.9.

James



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