RE: Feeler: Another Aftermarket EMS option

From: Ray Block (bpracing@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Sun Oct 22 2006 - 06:42:21 EDT


Kevin, my understanding is the MS system just controls the fuel while your
stock PCM still controls everything else. I believe you can unplug it and
return full control to your PCM for smog checks.

Have you checked for a Superchips controller for your truck?

Ray
http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/20KM1FD2KWBP.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin S
>
> Thanks for the info. I guess what I'm not sure of is how to get the info
> to the gauges/CCD with a MS system, and how to control the tranny. The
> other
> catch is that I live in CA, so part of our smog test requires the tech to
> tap into the OBD-II system and make sure everything checks out. That's
> why
> the piggyback system sounded so good.
>
> This is my biggest gripe, that they care more about what it looks like
> than
> how it runs at the tailpipe...but I wont start my rant here.
>
> More research to come for sure.
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
> Hello sneezer@gmail.com,
>
> > In article <25ae83fa0cac8c8c34667ca4230@news.dakota-truck.net>,
> > kevin14@surewest.net (Kevin S) writes:
> >
> >> Has anybody experimented with the Civinco Emgine Management System?
> >> Is there any interest in the system?
> >>
> >> http://www.civinco.com/eng_funkar.html
> >>
> >> Ever since my Dak erroniously got the "death flash," I've been trying
> >> to find a way to get the lost power and mileage back.
> >>
> >> MegaSquirt can't handle all of the chassis controls that are
> >> integrated into the PCM, and does not do OBD-II.
> >>
> >> The FAST system requires custom wiring (not easily swappable), does
> >> not do OBD-II, and is not smog legal in CA.
> >>
> >> I've seen the Civinco systems in action among the Volvo crowd (300+
> >> HP from the 2.5L 5 cyl. motor) and *may* be able to get them to work
> >> with us on the other Dodge PCM's. Basically, the Civinco piggyback
> >> controller goes between the factory PCM and the engine. It uses the
> >> factory sensors & injectors, and the signals from the PCM, to tweak
> >> the ignition and injection however you wish. It allows the use of a
> >> laptop to create custom fuel maps, and stores the custom programs on
> >> sim cards that can be hot-swapped (i.e. 89 octane program, race gas
> >> program, towing program, etc.). The PCM is still completely
> >> functional, it just never sees the altered fuel or ignition maps
> >>
> >> I am pretty set on making something work to get what I want out of my
> >> Dak. The question is - is there enough interest to work on a
> >> prototype for the Dodges/Daks???
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> > MS will work on an OBDII vehicle. Most of the people I know that have
> > put MS on their vehicles maintain the existing PCM as well. MS just
> > controls the fuel, etc.
> >
> > All standalone systems will have problems from an emissions
> > standpoint. Just about every OBDII emissions test I know of will fail
> > one due to codes being thrown, regardless of the actual emissions.
> >
> > I've never heard of the civinco system myself. I plan on running MS on
> > mine, although it is only a 92. I know of at least one other person
> > who is going to be running MS on an RT, but that one is going to be a
> > beast anyway.
> >
> > Check out the MS stuff on dak-dur. DIY recently became a sponsor over
> > there. they should be able to point you in the right direction.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> Kevin Sellstrom, W6KTB E-Mail:ksellstr@softcom.net
> ***Elk Grove, California***
>
> '99 Dodge Dakota, 5.2L, SLT, AT, 4x4
> '69 Dodge D200,
> '83 Volvo 244Ti,
> '62 Volvo 122S,
> '68 Volvo 122S,
> '98 Rockhopper A1FS



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