I had this happen on my '97 and it was a broken ground wire going to the engine!
depending on how the engine moved, sometimes it ran then others the shutdown relay killed it.
Tony
--- bernd@dodgetrucks.org wrote:
From: "Bernd D. Ratsch" <bernd@dodgetrucks.org>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Subject: DML: RE: auto shutdown relay
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:59:20 -0500
You've got email
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Setree [mailto:agm@agm.win.net]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:43 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: auto shutdown relay
Is there a trouble shooting procedure to find what is opening this relay? 96
3.9 2wd auto.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Robert Setree
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:17 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: E: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
With the new computer module, the engine ran a few minutes longer before it
shut down the engine. Can this be related to a heat sensor somewhere?
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Robert Setree
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 5:43 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
Does anyone have a used computer module for the 96 3.9? I do not have the
obi 2 port if it makes a difference.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Robert Setree
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 5:19 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
I have taken the Dak to a pro. They see the same thing, something is
dropping out the run feature. They have changed the cam sensor and will do
the computer tomorrow. We suspect a broken wire somewhere.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Robert Setree
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:04 PM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
What is a PCM and does it have inputs?
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Bernd D.
Ratsch
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:20 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
Subject: DML: RE: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
Yup....seen that happen as well.
Obviously we can't look at it physically, but from what was described in the
fuel pump operation...normal Key-ON/Engine-Off operation. Start,
pressurize, stop. Again, until crankshaft rotation is present, the PCM
turns off the relay.
- Bernd
-----Original Message-----
From: Ewraven [mailto:ewraven@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:11 AM
To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net; agm@agm.win.net
Subject: DML: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
If you haven't thought of it already, you could take the horn relay
and put it into the fuel pump relay spot. They should be the same.
I'm not exactly sure which contacts in the relay socket you would jump
to manualy power up the fuel pump though.
I know from another person who professionaly worked on Dodges that the
Siemens brand relays Dodge used for a while had a tendency to fail
prematurely. If you go get them from the dealer now, the new ones are
made by Tyco. My 1999 Dakota has the Siemens relays, I bought two of
the Tyco ones and keep them in the glove box, just in case...
Good Luck,
Josh
"Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:49:27 -0400
From: "Robert Setree" <agm@agm.win.net>
Subject: DML: RE: RE: crankshaft sensor no idle
The actual pumg is at 45 psi. The pump comes on with key and stays on long
enough, 2 seconds, to pressure the rail. Something then is turning it off.
It is less than a year old, and we went thru the symptoms when the pump
failed. I believe something electrically is not "ready" and drops out the
relay. Does any one know how to jumper the fuel pump on? It is as simple
as plugging in something in the relay box?"
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