Re: Made in China

From: Tom Byrne (kerib@ptd.net)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2008 - 22:03:47 EST


I believe in global warming. I believe most of it is cyclical and a smaller
portion is man-made. I don't think it is all bad. As some respected
scientists have noted, the earth has warmed and cooled on its own ever since
it was formed. Some also say that the melting ice cap will cause colder
water to interrupt the gulf stream and cause more global cooling..

I don't agree with McCain on everything, but I believe he is an honorable
man, ( I like Joe Lieberman too, but I don't always agree), and I am not a
fan of soft money. I don't think regulating soft money is inhibiting free
speech. I do agree he erred in not backing the Bush tax cuts, but I think he
now sees that they were good and will support keeping them in place,
especially the 15% tax on dividends. He will keep a strong national defense
and supported the effective troop surge in Iraq when liberals did not. His
supposed consideration of joining Swifty Kerry was a shot across the bow of
a dysfunctional Bush administration.

Bush is the anti-Reagan Republican. He has been the exact opposite of
myself. He is socially conservative and fiscally liberal. I want government
to stay out of personal lives and stop wasting our money. I do not respect
groups who say "my religion is the only way and you are less of a person for
not sharing my beliefs. Still, though I am not a fan of the Evangelical
Christian right, I would not hold that against a qualified candidate, but
doubt they would do the same.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Barnes" <rascal@scrtc.com>
To: <dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 9:10 PM
Subject: RE: DML: Made in China

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> You are right, that was a heroic thing he did, but he is a liberal in
> republicans clothing. He voted against drilling in Anwar, believes in
> global warming, (check out his McCain-Lieberman bill...what a disaster
> that
> would be for all of us), voted against the tax cuts, promoted open borders
> for twenty years, hates free speech, (McCain-Feingold), considered running
> as Kerry's VP...what more proof do you need? No way Jose
>
> Rascal
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@bent.twistedbits.net] On Behalf Of Tom Byrne
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:48 PM
> To: dakota-truck@dakota-truck.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Made in China
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> I wouldn't call McCain liberal. A centrist, an enigma, but not a liberal.
> If
>
> you really read up on his ideas, he sounds a lot like Reagan (even on
> immigration). I like the guy and will probably vote for him. Anyone who
> was
> offered a release from an NV prison camp because he was an important
> admiral's son and stayed there because the other men were staying is ok in
> my book.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jon@dakota-truck.net>
> To: <dakota-truck-moderator@bent.twistedbits.net>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: DML: Made in China
>
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>> "Tom Byrne" <kerib@ptd.net> wrote:
>>> McCain will have an easier time beating her than Obama. All McCain needs
>>> to
>>> do is to pick a conservative VP and he will win both the middle and the
>>> right. Most of the country is in the center to, may, slightly right,
>>> McCain
>>> wins. The Dems should have rolled given Bush's historically-low approval
>>> ratings, but the Democratic Congress has earned even lower approval
>>> ratings
>>> than Bush. One has to try very hard to earn lower approval ratings than
>>> Bush, but Congress accomplished the task.
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>> I am hearing a lot of talk from conservatives who basically plan to
>> sit this one out rather than vote for McCain. The usual theory which
>> is advanced is that if the country is going to go to the crapper, why
>> not let the Democrat party get the credit? (The reasons given for
>> this opposition is if you look at his history and policies, McCain is
>> extremely liberal and even his so called strength of national security
>> is an illusion when you start looking into it and seeing how he has
>> handled illegal immigration and his desire to treat enemy combatants
>> as criminals and handle them via the court system rather than the
>> military.)
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>> As much as I would not want to see the country take a step
>> backwards, I can't say that I disagree with this theory. Its a lot
>> easier for a conservative congress to fight against a liberal
>> president when that president is in the other party. (compare the
>> relative success of Newt and the '94 congress against Clinton for
>> example, as opposed to that same basic congress with Bush - who is not
>> a conservative - at the helm.) Its a shame, but party lines seem to
>> override principles.
>>
>> As far as advancing conservatism goes, I think a conservative
>> Republican congress with a liberal Democrat president would fare
>> better than that same conservative Republican congress and a liberal
>> Republican president, even if that Republican congress happens to be
>> in the minority.
>>
>> --
>> -Jon-
>>
>> .- Jon Steiger -- jon@dakota-truck.net or jon@jonsteiger.com -.
>> | '96 Kolb Firefly, '96 Suzuki Intruder, Miscellaneous Mopars |
>> `-------------------------------- http://www.jonsteiger.com --'
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