Wow. He sure did.
Steve P.
--- Tom Byrne <kerib@ptd.net> wrote:
>
> James, you hit the nail on the proverbial head,
> especially about Reagan and
> Bush I with Afghanistan and Gulf I.
>
> Tom Byrne
>
> Former Army 19D
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zito, James A (GE Infra, Energy)"
> <james.zito@ge.com>
> To: "Dakota list (E-mail)" <dml@dakota-truck.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 7:47 AM
> Subject: DML: RE Real War
>
>
> >
> > James Z writes: >> Well said and to go along
> with that, when the
> > next REAL war comes along (please bonus points to
> anyone who
> > can tell me when the last one was) <<
> >
> > And Azie replied:
> > Currently!! It started back in the late 70's when
> Our Military
> > and Our Embassies were bombed by Muslim Extremist.
> If you
> > don't think that this war is real, just wait and
> see what happens
> > when we do not win it.. No one in this country
> will be safe. It
> > is impossible to "make a deal" with a people that
> wants us
> > dead. We must win - not pull out.<<<
> >
> > While I agree that there is "war" currently going
> on, you have missed my
> > point entirely. I was referring to an actual WAR
> as defined by our
> > Constitution, in other words, one "declared" by
> Congress.
> >
> > Both the Executive and Legislative branch of our
> government have been
> > derelict in their duties since 8 Dec 1941. And by
> extension so has the
> > Judicial for allowing them to get away with it.
> Some time after the end
> > of WW2, the 3 branches of government decided that
> following the
> > Constitutional requirements of actually agreeing
> on the decision of
> > starting/joining a war were too restrictive and
> developed the "Executive
> > Order," and the War Powers Act. These bit's of
> legislation I find to be
> > almost direct opposition to the Constitution.
> >
> > Additionally, and unfortunately, we WILL loose the
> current conflict
> > because of a couple of facts.
> >
> > First it is a primarily a RELIGOUS conflict, not a
> political one. Since
> > the West generally have a very wide split between
> Church and State this
> > concept is completely unknown to us, and it is a
> very strong motivator of
> > the enemy.
> >
> > Second it is a guerilla war and the only times the
> monkeys (play on words)
> > have lost a guerilla war is when the
> "professional" fighters have killed
> > everything that moved until the few monkeys that
> weren't dead cried uncle.
> > While I can't say with authority, I believe, the
> only time this happened
> > was when Longshanks killed everything that moved
> in Scotland (including
> > Braveheart). And that sort of behavior doesn't
> fly so well today, or
> > really since they allowed the media to tag along
> for the fight. In WW2
> > that is exactly how we beat the Japanese, first by
> killing all of them on
> > the islands they were occupying and then by
> demonstrating that we would do
> > the same thing on the mainland. And before the
> anti-nuclear weapons folks
> > crucify me, please recall that our firebombings of
> Tokyo killed 400,000
> > civilians while Little Boy and Fat Man took out
> less than 200,000.
> >
> > Conflicts since WW2
> > Korea, never declared, just a "police action,"
> and not over, just the
> > longest cease fire on record.
> >
> > Viet Nam, never declared.
> >
> > Grenada, never declared, at least we won.
> >
> > Gulf War 1, never declared, we quit before we
> finished.
> >
> > Gulf War 2, never declared, might not have been
> needed if the actor and
> > George 1 had done their jobs properly. See the
> next comment. And if
> > became needed, due to Bin Laden it should have be
> directed at his homeland
> > Saudi Arabia. Additionally, I think a more
> appropriate response would
> > have been to destroy Mecca and Medina, they took
> out the "Temples of
> > Capitalism" we should have taken out the "Temples
> of Islam."
> >
> > Afghanistan, never declared, would have been
> unnecessary if the actor and
> > George 1 had done their jobs properly. After
> training and arming the
> > Taliban, the US left them in the lurch when the
> Russian tanks rolled out
> > of Afghanistan (can we say the monkeys winning
> another guerilla war?).
> > Reagan and Bush 1 should have jumped right in with
> humanitarian aid
> > including food, rebuilding resources and
> educational resources.
> >
> > Jim
> > Former Navy EOD officer
> > '03 Dak CC missing 2 pistons and 2 driven wheels
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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