Re: Delayed introduction

From: David Brown (dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu)
Date: Wed Mar 04 1998 - 16:41:21 EST


> Welcome aboard David, and to be honest with you being a true blooded moparite
> i can say that i too like the oldsmobile and buick muscle cars of the past.
> Why, because they really weren't part of the camaro, chevelle and mustang
> cookie cutter type image. They were unique and quick cars.
Thanks guys and girls. Yeah, that "discussion" is an ongoing topic :) on the
Olds list. There was a chevy craft write in campaign a while back.

> I wouldn't dis Olds, but for their styling. "American Volvo" about covers it.
>
> The General doesn't suffer from poor engineering, but from hideous management.
> The 8-6-4 engine, and the V8 diesels, would never have rolled out of a
> Japanese factory - they'd have spent the money to redesign the car -- right --
> so it didn't need a wheezy pollution-strangled V8. Or a new engine.
>
> Worthy Olds (in my book): 442, and the '69 Hurst Olds on my calendar this
> month (got a tab on the '70 Challenger R/T for June).
Yea, things have been kind of bland for a while, with standouts now and then,
and kind of bland now for Olds. In _Setting The Pace_, there's a discussion how
engineering made the mistake of thinking the diesel needed to be tested twice as
long as the gas version - after the problems, they finally settled on 5 times as
long. I've heard the later diesels were much better if properly maintained. Too
bad GM handled the whole situation in not too well of a manner. Olds had some
neat experimental stuff in the works when the diesel was cancelled. Not that I
would particularly prefer a diesel.

> After nearly 2 decades of inline fours, I went with the 318 and auto so I might
> relive the "good 'ol days" of my first car:
>
> 1964 Olds F-85 wagon, 330c.i. V-8, 2 speed Power Glide
>
> My father bought it new, gave it to me in 1974, sold it in 1981.
Cutlass wagon - could be a sleeper with the 320hp 442 engine for that year, or a
mild big block. A mag or two had some fun picking on people with this combo.

> Welcome to the list David, you should be able to get years of reliable
> service out of your Dak, there are a few kinks in them, but overall
> they're a great truck and I know of several people with over 200K who've
> never had a major problem out of them. used to
> have an '84 Olds D88 that we had from '85 to '91 without any problems,
> only reason we lost it in '91 is we had a head-on collision with another
> car at 60 mph (Other car turned in front of us) but it held up well in the
> crash, we were all able to walk away from it, that impressed me
Yeah, I think it will work out ok. That trans torrington bearing worries me. I
drive it most of the time like the person who Aunt Bea is tailgating! Well, not
that bad. I try to keep it under 1800 RPM. Of course there are those blasts of
power now and then.

I love the 4WD! A friend of mine talks about passing slow pokes on the shoulder
when it was snowing, with the full size Bronco he used to own. I was impressed
when I passed a number of people in 4 high using a sizeable throttle opening,
amid 5" of slush after a really wet snowfall around Christmas! This after a
number of "tests" in 4WD, knowing I'm not invincible.

Aren't (weren't) the ( -'85) D88's the tank? My brother hit the highway divider
at 50+ MPH, coming off a ramp and hitting glare ice, with only a little front
end damage. The mark from the bumper strip can still be seen 4 years later. We
always look when going by that place! Still there! Towed that car with the Dak
(Dak content) this past fall, for stripping before it will be crushed.

www.442.com, and others in the Olds Web Ring have loads of Olds info for those
interested. Ok, I've used my bandwidth for the day and non-Dak tokens for the
year.

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David Brown          Mailto:dbrown@mh1.mcis.uchicago.edu



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