At 07:24 AM 5/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>>Magnum Performance sez:
><snip>
>>we have all the tooling, etc. we might be willing to consider a DML
>>"do-it-ur-self" tbi kit. other than bragging rights... and hey... we all
>>like them... of the "I... did it my self!" my econ tbi at $200 is miles
>>ahead of a sears do-it-ur-self-drummel-job" and at $59.95 for a good
>>drummel kit and no damaged parts and a WHOLE lot more modifications...
>>and no bench time OR... mistakes/damaged parts... maybe a bunch cheaper,
>>too. but in any event... you get a much better job with a lot MORE metal
>>removed.
>
>Real Per4mance sez:
>
> Ok..we're gonna do *this* again? Jules...I got nothin' against you or
>your products. Fact is, on a percentage basis, most that I've heard from
>that have purchased MPI throttle bodies have been *more* than satisified.
>*But* to say the MPI econ throttle body is "miles ahead of a sears
>do-it-ur-self-drummel-job" is really pretty impetuous on your part. You've
>never seen my work, or anybody else's, that's been happy with their
>results. Mine may not be "Professional" pretty but it gets the job done
>and (assuming I could afford the down time on the truck) I'd flowbench it
>against anything else out there any day. My home job (and I haven't even
>*begun* to get into the thing yet) is I'm sure partly responsible for the
>truck runnin' as well as I feel it has. 14.9s (2.2 60') in a '97 with
>little more than a muffler and air cleaner ain't so bad.
>
>I wouldn't count the cost of the dremel against the mod since most that do
>this mod at home already have the tool and it sure in the hell does a lot
>more than port throttle bodies. So...you've got the cost of a sanding drum
>kit involved (under $20) and a couple hours of time (including the r&r) vs.
>a couple months wait. Plus...the money I *didn't* spend on a
>"professional" throttle body will buy addtional speed parts. For
>example....for the cost of the econ model I got my exhuast, the FABM10, the
>plug wires, and coil.
>
><snip>
>>i like your page as i support any do-it-ur-self hot rodding efforts. I
>>got here by being a "do-ur-selfer hot rodder..." cutting corners at
>>every oppportunity in my earlier days.
>
> Thanks Jules....that actually means quite a bit coming from you
>particulary because this is your business. I just feel that you should
>think twice before knocking the work of others without ever seeing it. You
>may get some seriously messed up lookin' tb's sent in to ya but that
>doesn't mean all of us are out here grindin' on these things wearin'
>mittens and blindfolds.
>
>If you want a piece of the do-it-yerself market (more power to ya
>man...business is business) I think the home-kit is a great idea. The
>necessary dremel bits and some detailed instructions would probably sell
>extremely well.
>
>And to those that have purchased MPI tb's...in NO WAY am I coming down on
>goin' that route. It takes quite a bit of nerve (and a certain amount of
>"thriftiness"..is that spelled c-h-e-a-p ? 8^) ) to yank the throttle body
>and start grindin' on it.
>>my harley runs a full-on MPI custom brass mystery shaft in it's S&S carb
>>(75hp+ hawg, stock 45) as does our family sedan... and of course,... "i
>>did it myself!"
>>j/mpi
>
> Now *that's* pretty cool. Anything with a gas motor in it should be
>hot rodded! 8^)
>
>I said this once last year......this hobby, while more rewarding and fun
>than any I've had in recent memory, can get a bit expensive. It's
>extremely important that the people/companies you deal with in your search
>for more horsepower not only provid you quality products and a resonable
>price, but also make you feel comfortable in those purchases. Be it Jules
>and MPI, Summit Racing, or the corner speed shop......deal with someone you
>trust and you are guaranteed to have a good time at this.
>
>off my soapbox now...sorry fellas.
>
>s/rpm
>
>
> I think the whole point to this discussion, is that some people are
capable or handy enough for this mod and some aren't.[ME!] I think
Jules really knows his Mopars,but I wouldn't be suprised if the
final polishing was with a little snake oil.BTW,Sean, what did your
truck turn stock?
Tony
P.S. Picked up the pulleys last night.
>
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