RE: RE: RE: Cable Modem

From: Bernd D. Ratsch (bernd@texas.net)
Date: Wed Feb 10 1999 - 08:32:17 EST


Being an MCI person has nothing to do with it and no...it's not supported at
this time due to the lack of coverage for Cable Modems. Cost being
prohibitive...as in what...??? As for the Routers, if you are referring to
the ISDN Routers, of course they're old news to corporations...if you're
referring to Routers in general still being on the corporate network,
they'll be around for some time. (And i've seen Dell's network...Too
bad...tsk tsk tsk...How many times do the servers go down...I believe
they're Novell...that explains that part.) :)

BTW: When you refer to MCI, which part...Systemhouse, Worldcom, Telecom??

So...are we back to the Dakota's yet??

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Vladimir
> Ryall
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 12:41 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: RE: RE: Cable Modem
>
>
> I can understand why you so critical of Cable Modems now. MCI
> stands to be
> left out of the Cable Modem arena. Although ISDN has been around for quite
> sometime, it can be very expensive and undependable. I am not
> sure what you
> mean by smaller backbone specifically related to CableModem networking, as
> this would apply across the board to each and every example you listed. I
> would say its irrelevant to the discussion. Further, the speed difference
> between ISDN & a CM is @ 3 fold +. The equipment cost of ISDN
> equipment is
> prohibitive, last time I checked. I guess what I am saying is adios
> overpriced ISDN and hello CableModem. By the way, routers are old
> technology as well. We still have some hanging around though.
>
> Vladimir "FASRAM"
> Senior Engineering IT Manager (MCSE+I)
> Dell Computer Corp.
> Home: http://home.austin.rr.com/fasram/
> Member: http://www.indyram.org/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Bernd D.
> Ratsch
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:59 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: RE: Cable Modem
>
>
> Cable Modems are still considered a "New Idea" by corporate
> standards. (The
> same goes for ADSL.) ISDN has been the choice for most home
> users since the
> overall and initial cost are much less than the above. You can also push
> the ISDN modems/routers up to 230K UP/DOWNLOAD without any problems..this
> does depend on the site though. I've been running my old
> BitsurferPRO with
> a TurboPort 920 card (16750UART CoProcessed Serial Card) at 230K for the
> past 2 years without any problems..and this is also taking into
> consideration that I run an NT Proxy Server at home for three different
> workstations (all running DHCP with full access to the internet
> and email).
> Cable modems can be setup to do this as well, but with some
> difficulty...Home ADSL uses a static IP and does not allow Proxy Servers
> since it communicates with ISP via IP Translation through the routers.
>
> Pro's/Cons:
>
> Cable Modems - Fast, but highly susceptible to "slowdowns" due to
> increased
> client usage over smaller backbone. Also not available in most
> cities (CA is
> very limited - Fremont was the test city)
>
> ADSL - VERY Fast - 384K+, but you "pay to play". More speed, more money.
> Initial equipment is around $700 for a good Router. (No extra phone lines
> available)
>
> ISDN - Fast and inexpensive alternative to 56K modems. Allows 2
> phone lines
> and also allows Incoming/Outgoing phone call while surfing.
>
> US Robotics Courier V.90/Everything 56K = $250+ --- Max Speed =
> 53K (115.2K
> if your lucky w/compression)
> 3COM Impact ISDN/TA = $350 --- Max Speed = 230K
> Motorola BitsurferPro ISDN/TA = $280 (If you can still find one) --- Max
> Speed = 230K
> (Keep in mind that you can only reach 115.2K on a standard 16550 Serial
> Port)
>
> Southwestern Bell/PacBell and Earthlink have some of the most competitive
> rates for ISDN around and monthly costs can be kept below $30.00 if you
> don't "Live" in the internet.
>
> 2-Cents worth
>
> Bernd D. Ratsch
> MCI/Systemhouse, Inc. - Sr. Systems Engineer (CNE, MCSE)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Drew
> > Schofield
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 8:53 PM
> > To: DML
> > Subject: DML: Cable Modem
> >
> >
> > Are the cable modems worth the extra 10 bucks a month? Can you still get
> > AOL?
> > Doesn't the transfer rate depend on the modem on the other end...or are
> > all
> > server modems very fast...much higher than 56.6K?
> > Thanks
> > Looking into getting a cable modem
> > Charles Smith
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > If you surf a lot, they are worth their weight in gold. Don't let the
> > term cable MODEM throw you tho. They are not modems as your 56K is.
> > You can get on the internet and transmit data to anyone or anything else
> > on the internet, but you can't 'call' another modem. They use fiber
> > optic cable tv lines to transmit data at speeds that can reach over
> > 500k/sec. It depends on the speed of the servers you are bouncing
> > through to your destination. If the server with the cool pics of the
> > dakota you are looking at only has a 28.8k effective throughput, even
> > with your cable modem all you are going to see is 28.8k throughput on
> > your end. A little perspective...I had to try to download service pack
> > 4 for Win NT at work on a 56 k, it estimated d/l time to be 3 hours (39
> > meg d/l) I got home and did it in under 5 minutes!
> >
> >
> > Drew Schofield
> > Visit my web page at http://www.angelfire.com/tn/page4drew
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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