Re: Attn EFI M1 users! Need help with my MPI!!!

From: Klaus Wilkens (klaus@buffnet.net)
Date: Tue May 11 1999 - 21:01:50 EDT


Jon,

My experience with MP has been poor at best. I don't know who answers the
phones for them but some product knowledge would be helpful. Anyway there
used to be a Magnum hotline, I called it about 2 years ago and they were
very, very knowledgeable. Gary Howell of Howell Automotive is another source
of good Magnum information.

Good luck!

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
To: Dakota Mailing List <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 5:35 PM
Subject: DML: Attn EFI M1 users! Need help with my MPI!!!

>
>
> I mentioned before that I was going to call Mopar Performance
>and ask for some additional info about using the MPI intake manifold.
>
> Basically, Mopar Performance handed me a big fat goose egg.
>They were no help whatsoever. They said that the MPI intake
>isn't an emissions legal part, and its not designed to work with
>the stock fuel injection; its designed to work with their own
>fuel injection system (not yet on the market) or an aftermarket
>one. That's why it doesn't have any bungs for the PCV hose,
>vaccum hoses, etc. I asked if the port on the back of the manifold
>(which they said was for some sort of return air) could be used
>for the vacuum hoses and such, and the guy said that he didn't
>think that it was a "positive source of air" or something like
>that. I asked about drilling into an intake runner for the PCV
>and vaccum sources, and he said they hadn't tested it, so they
>couldn't say one way or another. So basically, I'd have to drill my
>brand new $200+ manifold, and if it doesn't work, too bad... (Why
>they haven't tried this on the "street" engines, I have no idea!!
>I mean, how hard is it to drill the ports? If the racers don't want
>'em, they can block 'em off! The stock manifold has LOTS of blocked
>off ports...) :-P (I am becoming less and less impressed with
>Mopar Performance.)
>
> Basically, we are on our own here. However, this is a mod which
>I have been waiting for a long time, and I think it will be
>beneficial, so I am dedicated to seeing this through to the end. I
>will document my experiences and lay out a step by step procedure
>of how to adapt this intake to a "real" engine. (Available free of
>charge to everyone via the DML Home Page) I can't do it on my own
>though, so I am asking anyone who has any experience whatsoever with
>adapting an intake to the modern emissions systems to help me out! :-)
>Dave T. has already posted some helpful info to the list, but I need
>much more... I suppose I could call Kammer & Kammer or someone like
>that, but I don't know how forthcoming they'd be unless they were
>actually doing the work. (And I'd like this to be a "generic" sort
>of thing that anyone could do themselves (or take to the local machine
>shop to do))
>
> It looks to me like this really is just an M1 with injector bosses,
>so if anyone has experience with adapting an M1 to your Magnum engine,
>that information would probably be *extremely* relevant.
>
> Heck, if it helps to motivate anyone, maybe we can make up a kit
>which will have all the parts nescessary for someone to do the
>conversion, and everyone who makes a significant contribution can
>take a share of the profits!
>
> Help, help, help! :-)
>
> -Jon-
>
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