Attn EFI M1 users! Need help with my MPI!!!

From: Jon Steiger (stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu)
Date: Tue May 11 1999 - 17:02:13 EDT


   I mentioned before that I was going to call Mopar Performance
and ask for some additional info about using the MPI intake manifold.

   Basically, Mopar Performance handed me a big fat goose egg.
They were no help whatsoever. They said that the MPI intake
isn't an emissions legal part, and its not designed to work with
the stock fuel injection; its designed to work with their own
fuel injection system (not yet on the market) or an aftermarket
one. That's why it doesn't have any bungs for the PCV hose,
vaccum hoses, etc. I asked if the port on the back of the manifold
(which they said was for some sort of return air) could be used
for the vacuum hoses and such, and the guy said that he didn't
think that it was a "positive source of air" or something like
that. I asked about drilling into an intake runner for the PCV
and vaccum sources, and he said they hadn't tested it, so they
couldn't say one way or another. So basically, I'd have to drill my
brand new $200+ manifold, and if it doesn't work, too bad... (Why
they haven't tried this on the "street" engines, I have no idea!!
I mean, how hard is it to drill the ports? If the racers don't want
'em, they can block 'em off! The stock manifold has LOTS of blocked
off ports...) :-P (I am becoming less and less impressed with
Mopar Performance.)

   Basically, we are on our own here. However, this is a mod which
I have been waiting for a long time, and I think it will be
beneficial, so I am dedicated to seeing this through to the end. I
will document my experiences and lay out a step by step procedure
of how to adapt this intake to a "real" engine. (Available free of
charge to everyone via the DML Home Page) I can't do it on my own
though, so I am asking anyone who has any experience whatsoever with
adapting an intake to the modern emissions systems to help me out! :-)
Dave T. has already posted some helpful info to the list, but I need
much more... I suppose I could call Kammer & Kammer or someone like
that, but I don't know how forthcoming they'd be unless they were
actually doing the work. (And I'd like this to be a "generic" sort
of thing that anyone could do themselves (or take to the local machine
shop to do))

  It looks to me like this really is just an M1 with injector bosses,
so if anyone has experience with adapting an M1 to your Magnum engine,
that information would probably be *extremely* relevant.

  Heck, if it helps to motivate anyone, maybe we can make up a kit
which will have all the parts nescessary for someone to do the
conversion, and everyone who makes a significant contribution can
take a share of the profits!

  Help, help, help! :-)

                                              -Jon-

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