RE: Attn EFI M1 users! Need help with my MPI!!!

From: Holloway,Frank T (Frank.T.Holloway@KP.ORG)
Date: Wed May 12 1999 - 10:45:18 EDT


Jon,

My MPI is in. I will take a look at it this weekend. I have a couple of
stock manifolds with injector rails, basically everything, so I can take
measurements and figure out what needs to be done to make this work. Vacuum
ports are not a problem. I will let you know ASAP........

        Frank

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Steiger [SMTP:stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 2:02 PM
> To: Dakota Mailing List
> Subject: DML: Attn EFI M1 users! Need help with my MPI!!!
>
>
>
> I mentioned before that I was going to call Mopar Performance
> and ask for some additional info about using the MPI intake manifold.
>
> Basically, Mopar Performance handed me a big fat goose egg.
> They were no help whatsoever. They said that the MPI intake
> isn't an emissions legal part, and its not designed to work with
> the stock fuel injection; its designed to work with their own
> fuel injection system (not yet on the market) or an aftermarket
> one. That's why it doesn't have any bungs for the PCV hose,
> vaccum hoses, etc. I asked if the port on the back of the manifold
> (which they said was for some sort of return air) could be used
> for the vacuum hoses and such, and the guy said that he didn't
> think that it was a "positive source of air" or something like
> that. I asked about drilling into an intake runner for the PCV
> and vaccum sources, and he said they hadn't tested it, so they
> couldn't say one way or another. So basically, I'd have to drill my
> brand new $200+ manifold, and if it doesn't work, too bad... (Why
> they haven't tried this on the "street" engines, I have no idea!!
> I mean, how hard is it to drill the ports? If the racers don't want
> 'em, they can block 'em off! The stock manifold has LOTS of blocked
> off ports...) :-P (I am becoming less and less impressed with
> Mopar Performance.)
>
> Basically, we are on our own here. However, this is a mod which
> I have been waiting for a long time, and I think it will be
> beneficial, so I am dedicated to seeing this through to the end. I
> will document my experiences and lay out a step by step procedure
> of how to adapt this intake to a "real" engine. (Available free of
> charge to everyone via the DML Home Page) I can't do it on my own
> though, so I am asking anyone who has any experience whatsoever with
> adapting an intake to the modern emissions systems to help me out! :-)
> Dave T. has already posted some helpful info to the list, but I need
> much more... I suppose I could call Kammer & Kammer or someone like
> that, but I don't know how forthcoming they'd be unless they were
> actually doing the work. (And I'd like this to be a "generic" sort
> of thing that anyone could do themselves (or take to the local machine
> shop to do))
>
> It looks to me like this really is just an M1 with injector bosses,
> so if anyone has experience with adapting an M1 to your Magnum engine,
> that information would probably be *extremely* relevant.
>
> Heck, if it helps to motivate anyone, maybe we can make up a kit
> which will have all the parts nescessary for someone to do the
> conversion, and everyone who makes a significant contribution can
> take a share of the profits!
>
> Help, help, help! :-)
>
> -Jon-
>
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