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From: Jon Steiger <stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu>
To: Dakota Mailing List <dakota-truck@buffnet.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 4:12 PM
Subject: DML: Attn EFI M1 users! Need help with my MPI!!!
>
>
> I mentioned before that I was going to call Mopar Performance
>and ask for some additional info about using the MPI intake manifold.
>
> Basically, Mopar Performance handed me a big fat goose egg.
>They were no help whatsoever. They said that the MPI intake
>isn't an emissions legal part, and its not designed to work with
>the stock fuel injection; its designed to work with their own
>fuel injection system (not yet on the market) or an aftermarket
>one. That's why it doesn't have any bungs for the PCV hose,
>vaccum hoses, etc. I asked if the port on the back of the manifold
>(which they said was for some sort of return air) could be used
>for the vacuum hoses and such, and the guy said that he didn't
>think that it was a "positive source of air" or something like
>that. I asked about drilling into an intake runner for the PCV
>and vaccum sources, and he said they hadn't tested it, so they
>couldn't say one way or another. So basically, I'd have to drill my
>brand new $200+ manifold, and if it doesn't work, too bad... (Why
>they haven't tried this on the "street" engines, I have no idea!!
>I mean, how hard is it to drill the ports? If the racers don't want
>'em, they can block 'em off! The stock manifold has LOTS of blocked
>off ports...) :-P (I am becoming less and less impressed with
>Mopar Performance.)
>
> Basically, we are on our own here. However, this is a mod which
>I have been waiting for a long time, and I think it will be
>beneficial, so I am dedicated to seeing this through to the end. I
>will document my experiences and lay out a step by step procedure
>of how to adapt this intake to a "real" engine. (Available free of
>charge to everyone via the DML Home Page) I can't do it on my own
>though, so I am asking anyone who has any experience whatsoever with
>adapting an intake to the modern emissions systems to help me out! :-)
>Dave T. has already posted some helpful info to the list, but I need
>much more... I suppose I could call Kammer & Kammer or someone like
>that, but I don't know how forthcoming they'd be unless they were
>actually doing the work. (And I'd like this to be a "generic" sort
>of thing that anyone could do themselves (or take to the local machine
>shop to do))
>
> It looks to me like this really is just an M1 with injector bosses,
>so if anyone has experience with adapting an M1 to your Magnum engine,
>that information would probably be *extremely* relevant.
>
> Heck, if it helps to motivate anyone, maybe we can make up a kit
>which will have all the parts nescessary for someone to do the
>conversion, and everyone who makes a significant contribution can
>take a share of the profits!
>
> Help, help, help! :-)
>
> -Jon-
>
> .--- stei0302@cs.fredonia.edu ----------------------------------------.
> | Jon Steiger * AOPA, DoD, EAA, MP Race Team, NMA, SPA, USUA * RP-SEL |
> | '96 Dodge Dakota v8 SLT CC (14.58@93.55), '96 Kolb FireFly 447 |
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>
>
>Jon,
Calm down. You know MP doesn't know anything. The little trick I did was to
go to the junkyard and find a ford econoline van a mid 80s model I believe.
Take off the vacuum tree that's located inside the cab(remember most of the
engine is inside anyway). This directly screws into the port in the back of
the plenum. No cutting or drilling and looks factory. I believe it gives you
5 ports to use. I had to block one off. Churches use these vans so I found a
ton of them to use. They all had these trees. I simply took the one that
looked the best. The thermostat housing is the larger, older one. I bought
this type at a autozone-no big deal and hooked it up to my stock hose which
I did have to cut slightly. The EGR is simply blocked off. Fab a small piece
of metal to go over the oval shaped passage on the header. No check engine
light!
Tom
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