Re: strange trailer wiring with 2002 Quad Cab w/factory 7-pin connector.

From: Miles D. Oliver (moliver@mmoliver.org)
Date: Thu Nov 03 2005 - 13:52:41 EST


On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Walt@Walt-n-Ingrid.Com wrote:

>
> That sounds right to me, it's been a long time since I worked at the RV/Cap
> place but I recall the 4,5,6 & 7 pin wire configurations like this.
>
> 4 Way Systems are typically wired
>
> Green = Right Turn & Brake
> Yellow = Left Turn & Brake
> Brown = Tail/Running Lights
> White = Common Ground
>
> 5 Way (same as 4 Way plus)
> Black or Red or Blue (on various flat 5 way I've seen all three colors used on
> the 5th pin) = auxiliary power wire (could be used for brakes, however brakes
> are typically wired blue though I have see black used)

  Yes, In my case it is the black wire that is used for the electric
brakes.

>
> 6 Way Systems (same as 4 Way plus)
> Black - 12V Positive (center pin on round 6 pin connectors)
> Blue - Electric Brake
>
> 7 Way Systems
> Pin 1 (lower right pin on truck) = White = Common Ground
> Pin 2 (lower left pin on truck) = Blue = Electric Brake
> Pin 3 (upper right pin on truck)= Brown = Tail Lights
> Pin 4 (upper left pin on truck)= Black = 12V Positive
> Pin 5 (middle right pin on truck) = Yellow = Left Turn
> Pin 6 (middle left pin on truck)= Green = Right Turn
> Pin 7 (center pin on truck) = Orange = AUX (I believe Dodge typically wires
> this into the reverse circuit, both my trucks with tow packages came that way)
>
> I would double check the grounds as it sounds like it's back feeding the
> running lights.

  From all the input I have gotten it looks like grounding is the cuplrit.

  I'll just have to take the time with the test light and see what more I
can find out.

>
> Walt
>
>
> In article <Pine.LNX.4.63.0511030940030.8577@kota.mmoliver.org>,
> moliver@mmoliver.org ("Miles D. Oliver") writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a strange issue with my 2002 Dakota Quad Cab with regards to
>> the factory 7-pin trailer connector.
>>
>> I have a 16 foot Kaufman auto trailer with electric brakes. It came with
>> a 6 pin wiring connector and I purchased a 7 pin connector and wired it
>> according to the diagram on the cap of the factory 7 pin connector under
>> the bumper of the Dakota.
>>
>> The trailer has a wiring harness with 5 wires.
>>
>> Black - Trailer Brakes
>> White - Ground
>> Brown - Running lights
>> Yellow - Left Turn/Stop
>> Green - Right Turn/Stop
>>
>> All lights and brakes function properly EXCEPT for the Running lights.
>>
>> With the trailer connected I get the runing lights are ON when the
>> headlight switch is OFF.
>>
>> Turn the headlight switch ON and the running lights turn off.
>>
>> THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT THE RUNNING LIGHTS TO DO.
>>
>> Normally I would suspect the problem to be with the trailer, and not the
>> Dakota. I have traced all the wires, found no shorts or incorrect wiring.
>> The trailer is only 1.5 years old.
>>
>> I would not expect the trailer brake unit to play a role in this. I
>> spliced no wires and am using the brake to wiring harness connector that
>> came with the trailer brake.
>>
>> I have only used the trailer in daylight hours so this has not been an
>> issue before this and I've let this problem go on for longer than I should
>> have. I need to get the trailer Virginia Inspected soon.
>>
>> I feel that the trailer end 7 pin female connector is wired properly
>> because I can plug it into my brother-in-laws Chevy Pickup with a 7-pin
>> connector and all lights, including the running lights function properly.
>>
>> This is an odd problem that I can't seem to find a solution to, The
>> running lights operate EXACTLY OPPOSITE of what they are supposed to do.
>>
>> Can anybody give me a clue as to where to go with this?
>>
>> I've done my homework on this and think that the trailer is 100% wired
>> properly and I get all lights except for the running lights to work.
>>
>> --
>> Miles D. Oliver
>> www.mmoliver.org
>

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