RE: RE: WAS Dead Dak,Now Sick Dak;-)

From: Shawn Bowen (Shawn@bowen.com)
Date: Tue Jun 12 2001 - 03:03:02 EDT


ROTFLMAO, Exxon Valdez;-). Well, I'll start over, bummer but I've gotten
rather fast at it!

Thanks,
        Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
[mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Sam Parthemer
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:28 AM
To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
Subject: DML: RE: WAS Dead Dak,Now Sick Dak;-)

A couple of things- If you didn't start from scratch and adjust the rockers
in the sequence I posted, you may not have them all adjusted correctly, and
need to start over.

If you don't have any tappet sounds, or other odd noises, you MAY have your
plug wires crossed. It happens to the best of us. Check you plug wires
again.

If they check out, remove both valve covers, and all rockers.. start over.
You will have an exxon valdez on your hands if you run the truck for any
length of time without the covers. I took a stock set and cut the top
opening to try to fine tune the adjustment over the standard 'feel'. This
helped keep the oil lose to about 1/2 quart vs. 3 quarts.. but the
adjustment wasn't really necessary. All of the 1.7s I've done have come out
fine.

Sam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet.net]On Behalf Of Shawn Bowen
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:05 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: WAS Dead Dak,Now Sick Dak;-)
>
>
> Ok, after getting valve lash 101 from you wonderful people I got her to
> start and run (Valve covers on cause I didn't read this post till just
> now!). My issue now is a VERY rough idle. I did 3 starts, ran her for 45
> seconds a piece the first two and the clicking chilled out, the I took her
> for a drive to Quick Trip. Smooth acceleration, SHITTY idle. Once I hit
> normal operating temp she stalled on me twice when slowing to a
> stop at low
> RPM at traffic lights. Brought her home and popped the hood, no
> tapping, no
> odd sounds, and I looked for a wooden broom stick to cut in half
> to use as a
> stethoscope;-), I didn't find one. All plug wires are firm on
> the plugs and
> the distributor.
> This leads me to think that I over tightened a couple or more
> rockers. Most
> are good I assume because she runs, but I think several are still
> too tight.
> I guess in the morning I'll rip her apart for the fourth time and run it
> without the Valve Covers and see if I can tell who's the naughty
> rocker(s).
> If I can't pinpoint them then I'll back them all out again, check my new
> rods to see if they are bent (just to be safe) and hand tighten them while
> bumping the engine, then I'll give the instructions below a shot.
>
> Anyone know a way to find the over tightened valves easily????
>
> I REALLY appreciate all those who responded both on the list and
> privately.
> You have been a tremendous help, I hope one day to be able to repay the
> favor. If anyone has anything to add please let me know;-).
>
> Thanks a ton,
> Shawn
> 98 5.2L 4x4 CC Slightly sick Dak
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@BUFFNET.NET]On Behalf Of Chuong Nguyen
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 10:09 PM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: Re: DML: Dead Dak, I screwed up Somehow
>
> I'm sensing 2 problems.
>
> you said 7.1 roller rockers/ DAMN. are the valve springs
> sticking out the
> hood? hehe.... sorry.
>
> anyways. you said you "Torqued" the 9/16 nut down until there's zero lash?
> On roller rockers, you're supposed to start the motor without the valve
> covers, loosen the 9/16 hold down bolt until that rocker/lifter/pushrod
> starts to "tick tick tick" then you tighten it until the ticking
> goes away..
> you then give the nut another 1/2 a turn and tighten the allen screw in
> the middle.
>
> I think when you set it down to "zero valve lash" you pushed the
> valves in a
> little so it's somewhat open not allowing compression in the
> cylinders. If
> that's true. I bet your starter is winding hella faster too (give
> me credit
> on that one, happened to me :) )
>
> so, take those valve covers off and try readjusting your rockers./
> -Chuong
>
> <<I tried to fire her up. Ran the starter for 5 second intervals
> and after
> 3
> tries waited a while to make sure I didn't fry my starter too. The damn
> thing won't start, it turns over, doesn't even rumble like it wants too, I
> can smell a little gas after doing this a while so I know she is getting
> fuel. But I can't get her to run. So, I thought the coil free arching
> earlier might have been the problem, so I switch to a BRAND new
> MSD SS Coil
> and have the same results. I sat and check everything over and over but
> can't find anything wrong.
> I know you guys can help get me running again! Any ideas???
> Thanks,
> Shawn 98 5.2L 4x4 CC
>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>
>



This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Fri Jun 20 2003 - 12:01:47 EDT