If you have the problem with the vehicle, and it's a new (under warranty)
vehicle at that...demand that the dealer find the cause and fix it at their
cost. (Hell, if it means that they have to put headers on it...why not.)
There are a lot of Dak's that came from the factory that don't ping so that
tells me that there is a problem with the original configuration.
(Aftermarket parts can fix these...but again, if it's new and under
warranty, make them fix it. Why should you spend the money to fix their
screw-up.)
I don't agree with the "Warranty Rules"..hell, Edelbrock proved the C.A.R.B.
and EPA wrong several years ago with a motor that they built...and it ran
cleaner, more efficient, and a hell-uv-a-lot more power. It didn't go
through though because the damn bureaucrats said "NO...It doesn't conform to
the current smog/emissions laws". (A--holes!)
Regards,
Bernd D. Ratsch
Pflugerville, TX
bernd@texas.net
http://lonestar.texas.net/~bernd
1997 Dakota SLT-CC (3.9L)
License Plate Frame: "Don't Follow Me...I'm Trolling for Toyota's"
Song for the Day: "Gonna buy me a Dodge Truck and blow those Fords off the
road....."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of
> fawcett@uism.bu.edu
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 8:59 AM
> To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> Subject: DML: Re: Warranty/Pinging????
>
>
> I don't buy it... If it was that easy to scrap the warranty
> there wouldn't be
> an after-market! Maybe I'm just lucky, but the dealership I go
> to doesn't have
> a problem with improvements. He's got a problem with abuse of
> the vehicle, but
> not after-market improvements.
>
> If headers eliminate a case of the pings after checking all the
> basics, how is
> this "the wrong thing to do"? Moreover, the owners manual states you may
> experience some spark knock from time to time under load. After
> the headers I
> don't experience spark knock "."
>
> The bottom line is, I did *not* put the headers on to cure the
> ping --it was
> simply an added bonus.
>
> Tom
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
> _________________________________
> Subject: RE: Re[4]: : DML: Pinging????
> Author: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net> at smtpout
> Date: 3/3/99 7:06 AM
>
>
> Changing the vehicle configuration from OEM could be used in a case of
> "voiding the warranty". The Dealer doesn't have to prove
> anything it you've
> replace the manifolds, ignition, induction, etc. with anything other than
> OEM. (California is even tougher on this because of the smog laws.)
>
> Personally, I don't agree with it either...but I've had 5 dealers
> tell close
> to the same thing. It's seems to be at the discretion of the dealership.
> (High Performance "Goodies" for any vehicle always come with this
> problem.)
>
> I noticed the thread still says: "Pinging". Changing the exhaust
> manifolds
> to headers is definitely the wrong thing to do for this case. As I said
> before, if there is a problem with the operation of engine (in this case
> pinging), check all the basics before swapping parts. TSB's,
> Plugs, Wires,
> etc.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net
> > [mailto:owner-dakota-truck@buffnet4.buffnet.net]On Behalf Of
> > fawcett@uism.bu.edu
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 6:29 AM
> > To: dakota-truck@buffnet.net
> > Subject: Re[4]: : DML: Pinging????
> >
> >
> > To void the warranty they would have to prove that the
> after-market part
> > caused the problem... I can't see how getting exhaust gasses
> out of the
> > cylinders more efficiently could cause a problem.
> >
> > I put mine on when the truck was only 2 or 3 months old and I have been
> > very pleased with them... When I took the truck in to have the lower
> > steering shaft replaced (under warranty) the only thing the
> > service manager
> > said was that the headers looked nice... That was after he
> asked if the
> > FABM yielded any noticeable improvements. ;-)
> >
> > T.
> > ______________________________ Reply Separator
> > _________________________________
> > Subject: Re: Re[2]: : DML: Pinging????
> > Author: <dakota-truck@buffnet.net> at smtpout
> > Date: 3/3/99 12:00 AM
> >
> >
> > Won't the header void the warranty???? I really didn't want to
> > do anything to
> > major. I mean it is brand new
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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